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"On Google.com if you present a Vivaldi user agent and arrive via a redirect, the search text box will be misaligned
On Google Docs if you present a Vivaldi user agent you will receive a warning
On Facebook’s WhatsApp web interface if you present a Vivaldi user agent, you cannot enter the site and are advised to switch to one of our competitors
On Microsoft Teams (chat and collaboration website), presenting a Vivaldi user agent will stop you from being able to use the website
On Netflix, presenting a Vivaldi user agent results in a suggestion to install Silverlight to play videos… yes… really… Silverlight!"
Used Edge, went through completely.
Can't guarantee it was Firefox/browser issues. But this is not that uncommon an occurrence.
I suspect it is the bank who are at fault.
But on chrome it went through without a hitch.
For my full profile the login attempt with Firefox as a user agent apparently pushed it over the edge.
Switching banks is hard, because all of them suck, are underdocumented and a moving target.
The blessing is I can just reject it and it blocks all their videos from playing/downloading.
It doesn't seem to affect everyone equally. Pretending to be Chrome sometimes helps - not too long ago someone found a piece of code that introduced seconds of busy delay for any non-Chrome user agent.
It’s non-Google sites where Firefox may not be as well supported as Chrome, IME.
Widevine is legitimately a “gate”, but realistically it only stops 4K playback on Netflix, Disney and a few other streaming sites. And it's not super relevant considering that Zen has gathered 10M users without it.
we have to thank tim berners lee for allowing this kind of bs in the first place
https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird/blob/master/Docu...
To whoever had the evangelion r/unixporn as a way to test out ladybird reddit. I respect you so much as I really liked reading about evangelion (I haven't watched it as much BUT I have watched countless documentaries explaining it and had evangelion as my wallpaper for sometime)
Now coming to the point, the fact that reddit is working in ladybird sounds crazy good, I am not sure if youtube is working or not but I hope that youtube works too and Ladybird sounds to really work.
Also, thanks to https://jakubsteplow.ski/ for donating the money to ladybird. I mean I would like to actively promote people who donate to open source projects as a better way than what google ads or others too and jakub I wish you nothing but the best and I hope other people donate to projects like ladybird too (Independent donors/donations), also thanks to human rights foundation https://hrf.org/program/ai-for-individual-rights/
It's amazing how browsers had an almost mono/(duo or trio?)-poly yet it took a single guy to do all of this. Its really inspiring.
If you do end up watching I have to warn about the watch order. There are two timelines, the original TV series plus the movie “End of Evangelion”, and then the “Rebuild of Eva” movie series which started as a complete reboot but somehow ended as the ultimate Reboot/Remake/Sequel to the original stuff.
I don't watch much anime (shocking within my generation which seems to be anime-driven?) but ironically I have also watched berserk's golden age arc also because of an edit that I had watched before all the horrificness is revealed but that's the reason why I haven't really read more about berserk other than the golden age.
Yu-Yu-Hakusho, death note, AOT and bersek/(evangelion? Only watched documentaries explaining it) are the only series that I have watched/listened about a lot in this sense I suppose.
With berserk and evangelion, perhaps there is something about the style of both of these, both lure you in with a particular sense of art but both have some aspects of darkness hidden beneath the pages.
I have listened to and slept listening to this song more times than I can count: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSEkh4mgYqc
There is something about first discovering it even knowing through comments that things would turn south but I still decided to watch berserk because it so captured my attention. I wished for it to be a bland piece where things turn happy ever happily but I think that berserk's decision to not do is somewhat fascinating too. maybe the lure to watch these increases knowing the fact that these aren't just single dimensional things but rather multi dimensional with deeper topics.
Evangelion with concepts like loneliness and I would associate berserk with pain and hope (hope to still fight even after so much pain)
Edit: should probably mention Its late night and I should probably sleep and I didn't really intend to send this message, I sometimes write somethings and don't send them (but save them for myself to read in documents)* because I find that I think deeper about something during this and I accidentally pressed enter, thanks for reading this but I am sure that I might not be able to give my viewpoint away but I am grateful that you read till the end. Looks like the world wanted me to send the message so I did :-D
What I consider to be a spiritual successor to these GAINAX mecha shows was the most recent Gundam series "Gquuuuuux" which shared many staff members from them and has plenty of homages that were fun to spot! Also had the same mechanical designer as the Evangelions so I got a kick out of that.
> How many people are working on the browser today?
> We currently have 8 paid full-time engineers working on Ladybird. There is also a large community of volunteer contributors.
what’s Strava want with my battery level?
Totally spitballing here. Strava being a website that requests battery does not seem wildly outlandish to me, albeit it is a bit suspicious in general.
As a naive user I would expect websites to not be able to receive information about my battery state. With that information they can track my mobile phone usage pattern, and with some cross-referencing gain even more specific private information.
This would be a silly thing to use to identify bots.
Nice! Looks good. I prefer GTK UI/UX over Qt. Looking forward to seeing the development progress on that.
I think they have dark mode already.
And ladybird does not even support SerenityOS anymore.
That sounds quite dodgy. Ladybird doesn't have AI, why would such a program support its development?
But even before that: "Human Rights Foundation" sounds like "The Human League" which George makes up in Seinfeld as a fake charity. And promoting AI as a "human right" is quite suspicious. If I had to, I might be that this is something backed by one of the corporations burning through Billions of dollars and Gigawatt-hours on LLMs.
Looking at their annual report summaries and their huge staff, my guess slants a bit towards either bodies like the CIA or some ideologically-motivated billionaires (e.g. talk about the "dictator Maduro", focus on Iran etc.)
It was actually The Human Fund. The Human League is an English pop band, most successful in the 1980s with their hit single "Don't You Want Me".
They offer grants for "Using AI tools and platforms to more efficiently build movements and resist oppression" in addition to many other things.
>All sponsorships are in the form of unrestricted donations. Board seats and other forms of influence are not for sale.
i.e. donations explicitly do not buy any say in the project.
Great...
4 steps is not so bad
I understand that not everybody cares about this sort of thing, believing that politics of developers should be irrelevant; I'm personally not going to go around ringing the shame bell at people who use Ladybird (or Rails. But Kling loudly shouting "I support the free speech rights of fascists but get away from me with that DEI shit" doesn't give me warm fuzzies about using Ladybird, either. It's a lot easier to let politics of developers be irrelevant if the developers aren't out there energetically sharing them.
Ladybird has been pretty clear that they will accept money from pretty much anybody but that funding will not provide influence.
I mean, they mostly make sure sponsors websites look good in Ladybird but even that seems like a low priority if you watch them.
The sponsor money is used to pay developers to work on Ladybird so a major sponsor pulling out could mean laying off core developers, which the project would obviously be motivated to prevent.
To be clear, that source is happy to lie about their own identity and run away from basic questions. I'd treat this as another ill-baked cancel campaign unless someone actually credible speaks up
Ladybird has taken sponsorship money from FUTO and claims publicly that sponsorship provides no influence.
a household name (the HRF), to me
Here’s the CIA billionaire running it (I kid!) but ya HRF’s president: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Halvorssen_(human_rights_...
Unlikely to be USA govt if they’ve defocused soft power activities eh?
However, the screenshots for "List markers in RTL text" are the same it seems. The list markers are on the left in both cases.
It's nice that Rust is so beginner friendly but it would be nicer to have a pure C++ browser for the more experienced developers, to use as a basis for their projects like Chromium is used.
A third runner in this space would make the browser market a lot healthier than the current chrome/webkit and Firefox duopoly.
Too much software is written like that, and the result is that most things are shit. What are we in such a hurry for? To get more time to work more? Fucking chill. Do things slowly and right.
As a side thought, speed running seems like the wrong analogy for software. Speed runners in games are people who spend a ton of time doing the exact same steps over and over to find tiny optimisations and develop muscle memory to do something repeatable. They take the time to do it well. Being a good speed runner means embracing slow progress. It’s the antithesis of software, where rushing to get it out also means you barely look at it. You do it fast but seldom right.
GNU Hurd is a well known example where they spent a so much time on getting the code right that the project became irrelevant. And of course you made the case for erring on the "too much code too quickly" side
The point you’re making is valid but has no bearing on the current conversation. GNU Hurd is also an extreme case, the overwhelming majority of software suffers more from being rushed than from being so slow it becomes irrelevant.
I already contribute time and code to open source projects, and I promise you’ll have heard of some of the things I contributed a lot to. That’s beside the point.
This is like saying “I’d prefer if doctors took their time with patients to understand their cases and provide meaningful accurate resolutions to ailments instead of rushing” and you replying with ”oh yeah, are you willing to contribute with medicine and triage?”.
Blink (Chrome) is not WebKit. If anything, the duopoly is Blink and WebKit at places 1 and 2 respectively.
Firefox is at around 3% market share. There’s no “-poly” to Gecko at all.
I actually think Ladybird should lean into Rust more so it can compete on speed but still stay safe and friendly to contributors (as hopefully the compiler will prevent most bugs).
My hope is this will help them compete with tenets of "safe, fast, contributor-friendly and NOT owned by a corporation"
Happy to see Ladybird using the best tools.
The RegEx and JavaScript interpreters are great places to use Rust for security reasons.
I think they should be first focusing on getting to a first stable version before re-writing parts of the browser.
This is in addition to the already existing Qt frontend.
As noted by other authors, there does seem to be a wide surface area for attacks so, security remediation does seem to be a top-of-queue thing to be handled.
All in all, keep up the good work!
Boosting the idea that white males are discriminated against in SV: https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1874518295350837401
Defending DHH: https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1971287738268909576 (DHH himself has gone full-mask-off, and wrote a whole blog post complaining that there were immigrants in London: https://web.archive.org/web/20250925050154/https://world.hey...)
Kling has been pretty quiet so far himself, but he's keeping dubious company.
Nothing bad about it, of course. It's just it's long time overdue to move to Switzerland as well, I see.
Platinum, per Ladybird's own sponsorship page, means $100,000+ per year. Money that, per the site, comes from "just people and companies who believe in an open web." Cloudflare, then.
So basically, it will be useless. How many use epiphany please? That thing has been so extremely ineffective. It's like 1999 (not that everything was bad in 1999).
> follows GNOME’s design guidelines: no menubar, a hamburger menu
Oh. my. god.
So Ladybird worships uselessness now. Also, GTK progressively gets worse and with GTK5 they will (try to) kill of xorg-server too. Some people disagree with that - https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver and https://git.devuan.org/Daemonratte/gtk2-ng; I get it that there are not that many folks using that, but the point is that the GNOME corporate mindset has a tiny bit of competition. Perhaps that seed of competition grows over time until the corporate gnomeys have to change course (won't happen, as they are paid to abolish what is "old", but more competition is good, if only to try to "reason" with mr. ebassi and other hardcore gnomeys; sadly KDE also goes that way with wayland-only, thanks to anti Robin Hood Nate and his donation-pester daemon. Oldschool KDE devs didn't waylay people for money, now it is "pay or get nagged", thanks to Natey Nate).
We kind of need competition in the browser landscape, so in some ways having Ladybird is good. I don't really have much hope that ladybird will be able to challenge the evil Google empire though. But perhaps more people realise that Google controlling so much of the www-ecosystem (again, just look at how they nerfed google search in the last years) is a huge problem.
The userbase of Ladybug users is so small that it's probably not worth the attackers' time, but keep in mind that it's an enormous step down in security from the mainstream browsers who are actively searching for bugs using the latest tools and paying bug bounties on external reports.
[0] https://blog.calif.io/p/mad-bugs-rce-in-ladybird
This post reminded me of gaming emulator updates that I also love to read. "Fixed X bug to make Y behave correctly, which means game Z works now." (One of the things they fixed was CSS Doom, so I guess there is some legitimate overlap to gaming at any rate.)
I think the gap between having nothing to having a prototype is way smaller than between having something 'pretty usable' and something that is usable.
It's also a from scratch implementation, sort of, using existing Rust crates like stylo (which servo also uses) and taffy, but it doesn't rely on any code from existing browsers such as Chromium, Gecko or WebKit.
[0] https://github.com/DioxusLabs/blitz (in /apps/browser)
I will recompile ladybird too. Last time it had made great progress but was no where near read for regular use.
I used to disable Javascript by default but found that it was hard to actually get anything done on the Internet but maybe now we can use this sort of browser for pure informational websites and also save RAM. That is in fact what Dioxus Native is all about which wraps Blitz for a UI framework.